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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 3:48:57 PM
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Venue typo: should be St Matthew's Baths Hall [Baths not Bath]

For info:
reminisces from the local promoters

Couple of indoor shots at this site
mikezep61
Posted: Monday, May 26, 2008 6:58:16 AM

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The following songs were also played in the Whole Lotta Love Medley on 11/16/71:

"May I Have a Talk with You" by Howlin' Wolf

"Lend Me Your Love" by Memphis Slim
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Posted: Monday, May 26, 2008 10:39:19 AM

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mikezep61 wrote:
The following songs were also played in the Whole Lotta Love Medley on 11/16/71:

"May I Have a Talk with You" by Howlin' Wolf

"Lend Me Your Love" by Memphis Slim


Where in the Medley were these performances? In between which songs?
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Posted: Monday, May 26, 2008 12:33:06 PM

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Using the "Feeling Groovy - Definitive version" as the template, "May I Have a Talk with You" by Howlin' Wolf comes after "Mess of Blues" at the 15:22 mark:

"I like my coffee in the morning baby, and I'm crazy about my tea at night."

Then they go into "Honey Bee," and they return to "May I Have a Talk with You" at the 16:38 mark:

"I like my coffee in the morning and I'm crazy, crazy, crazy about my tea at night. I like my coffee in the morning, I want no sugar, all I want you to do is treat me right."

"Lend Me Your Love" comes at the 21:35 mark:

"You got a mortgage on my love, and know there really is no doubt. You got a mortgage on my love, I know there really, really, really is no doubt. When I make up my mind"Wink. Then back into "woman, woman, woman, way down inside" portion of Whole Lotta Love.

Here's the link to the lyrics for Howlin' Wolf's "May I Have a Talk with You.":
http://www.lyricsdownload.com/vaughan-stevie-ray-may-i-have-a-talk-with-you-lyrics.html

Here's the link to the lyrics for Memphis Slim's "Lend Me Your Love":
http://www.lyricstime.com/memphis-slim-lend-me-your-love-lyrics.html
mikezep61
Posted: Friday, January 16, 2009 3:55:22 PM

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Bump (songs still need to be added to medley)
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Posted: Saturday, January 17, 2009 9:41:27 AM

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Following changes to be reflected in version 33

Added credit of '(John Chatman)'
Added artist of 'Memphis Slim'
Added song of 'Lend Me Your Love' and set its credit to '(John Chatman)' and its popularizer to 'Memphis Slim'
Added lyrics for 'Lend Me Your Love'
Added photo of 'Memphis Slim'
Identified an unknown song in the 'Whole Lotta Love' medley for Nov 16th 1971 as 'Lend Me Your Love'


I'll get to the coffee and tea song later.Wink
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Posted: Monday, January 19, 2009 11:14:04 AM

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mikezep61 wrote:
Using the "Feeling Groovy - Definitive version" as the template, "May I Have a Talk with You" by Howlin' Wolf comes after "Mess of Blues" at the 15:22 mark:

"I like my coffee in the morning baby, and I'm crazy about my tea at night."

Then they go into "Honey Bee," and they return to "May I Have a Talk with You" at the 16:38 mark:

"I like my coffee in the morning and I'm crazy, crazy, crazy about my tea at night. I like my coffee in the morning, I want no sugar, all I want you to do is treat me right."

"Lend Me Your Love" comes at the 21:35 mark:

"You got a mortgage on my love, and know there really is no doubt. You got a mortgage on my love, I know there really, really, really is no doubt. When I make up my mind"Wink. Then back into "woman, woman, woman, way down inside" portion of Whole Lotta Love.

Here's the link to the lyrics for Howlin' Wolf's "May I Have a Talk with You.":
http://www.lyricsdownload.com/vaughan-stevie-ray-may-i-have-a-talk-with-you-lyrics.html

Here's the link to the lyrics for Memphis Slim's "Lend Me Your Love":
http://www.lyricstime.com/memphis-slim-lend-me-your-love-lyrics.html


I have been putting off dealing with the Coffee and tea lyrics that Plant sings in numerous medleys since there are so many songs that reference them.

The song that you posted does have that section pretty acurately

You know I like my coffee sweet in the morning
and I'm crazy about my tea at night
Yeah I like my coffee sweet in the morning little girl
and I'm crazy about my tea at night
You know you'd come out a little better now baby
All I want you to do is treat me right


But these lyrics appeared all the way back in 1937 in a release from Sonny Boy Williamson called 'Sugar Mama Blues'

i Like My Coffee Sweet In The Mornin'
you Know, An I'm Crazy 'bout My Tea At Night
an I Like My Coffee Sweet In The Mornin'
you Know, An I'm Crazy 'bout My Tea At Night
don't Give Me My Sugar Three Times A Day
oh, Lord, Then I An Feel Right.


Some times when Plant is singing these sections he mentions "Sugar Mama" as the person that he is talking to, or about. So given the fact that these lyrics are in a number of songs by a number of people and the fact that Plant sometimes mentions 'Sugar Mama' by name, I am going to call this song 'Sugar Mama Blues' by Sonny Boy Williamson.Wink

It is damn hard with these blues classics to nail down who said what first since they were constantly using each others lyrics. Also, Plant adlibbed them so much that it is even muddier. For the database though, I need to try to establish some consistency so I have to make some decisions sometimes where things aren't 100% clear.

BTW, I just realized that there were 2 Sonny Boy Williamson's. 'Sugar Mama' is from the first one and 'Eyesight to the Blind' is from the second one.
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Posted: Monday, January 19, 2009 1:36:15 PM

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I'll split the difference with you actually.Laughing

Sonny Boy Williamson I seems to be the earliest coffee tea song guy, but Zeppelin I think is singing Howlin Wolf's take on Sonny Boy's song.

Sugar Mama

by Chester Burnett Howlin' Wolf

I want you to tell me sugar mama, where in the world you get your sugar from
I want you to tell me sugar mama, where in the world you get your sugar from
Well you must of got it down in Louisiana, people on your daddy's sugar farm

I like my coffee sweet in the mornin', sugar mama you know I'm crazy 'bout my tea at night
I like my coffee sweet in the mornin', sugar mama you know I'm crazy 'bout my tea at night
Well if I can't get my sugar three times a day, oh lord I don't feel right


Both stanzas of that song have been sung by Robert during medley's For example the first one is sung on Mar 6th 1971 and the second stanza was sung on April 1st 1971. So I am going to credit the song to Sonny Boy, but make Howlin Wolf the popularizer and use his lyrics because that is the version that Zeppelin seems to be most influenced by.

I just don't think that we are going to find a more accurate way to map out these lyrics.
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